The Wicked K's Podcast

Drafting using Hockey Cards and Tackling Wrestling News (Sports - S.2 Episode #73)

June 24, 2023 Cool Kyle / Rev Kev Season 2 Episode 73
The Wicked K's Podcast
Drafting using Hockey Cards and Tackling Wrestling News (Sports - S.2 Episode #73)
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Rev Kev:

Hey there, everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of the Wicked K's podcast, with me the Rev Kev and, as always, my co-host, cool Kyle.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah.

Rev Kev:

We are getting with some behind-the-scenes technical issues with the audio this morning or this afternoon by the time we're doing this episode. So yeah, first things first. Special shout outs to a couple people. First off, my mom congrats to you and Mark on getting married, congratulations. That's fun and we didn't wish them happy father's day. So the father's out there. We're a week behind, but happy father's day to everybody out there. Happy father's day. We're gonna do a little draft today. Now I know we've done drafts in the past and we've actually done this type of draft before. We're gonna I have hockey cards before me we're gonna do an IRL draft. You'll get five packs, i'll get five packs at random. Whatever you get, you gotta make your team of that, so you better hope for the best. I mean, obviously there'll be a gentleman's agreement. If you've got four goaltenders and I have none, just ship me two goaltenders. And if I have to give you players, we'll trade.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, and this is gonna go back towards the NHL 23. We're gonna put them in the system.

Rev Kev:

We're gonna put them into the game? yep, and we're gonna. Which we?

Cool Kyle:

never informed people who won the last one.

Rev Kev:

Me.

Cool Kyle:

Of course it was you.

Rev Kev:

We split the two games. I think we split the game We split the regular season games, and then I ended up winning the hollow Stanley Cup.

Cool Kyle:

Yes. So, technically, your team won, so I gotta give you props on that. Congratulations, yeah, it was just. But a hollow Stanley Cup is still a Stanley Cup. Just the luck of the luck of the draw, yeah.

Rev Kev:

Well, actually we'll do this. Before we get into that, let's let's just briefly talk about Vegas and Denver. Yeah congratulations both to the Vegas Golden Knights for winning their first Stanley Cup and the Denver Nuggets for winning their first NBA championship. Both teams beat 8C teams from South Florida and both teams dominated both of their series.

Cool Kyle:

Wow So yeah, and you know what, florida tried to put up a fight and they did all the way through the series.

Rev Kev:

but I think eventually was what. What hampered Florida was You just took out too many giants, i mean Boston, toronto and Carolina. That's an impressive run, obviously. But you got to Vegas, and Vegas was just a team that was on a mission and they weren't going to be stopped. And Vegas learned from Boston's mistakes, obviously, where, if you have a chance to close a team out, especially when it's a chance to win the Cup, you got to do it. Yeah. So congrats to them, congrats to Bruce Cassidy. Phil Castle gets another Stanley Cup. That's three now. Wow, yep, mark Stone, alex, petrangelo, marchesow, carlson the whole gang going to be celebrating a championship in Vegas. What's the matter, my guy? What's wrong?

Cool Kyle:

I'm just hearing a bunch of banging.

Rev Kev:

It's probably your mom downstairs vacuuming and stuff.

Cool Kyle:

OK, yeah, it probably is either that or you know.

Rev Kev:

Elves are downstairs. Yeah, i don't know, and obviously I don't have too much to say on the NBA side congrats to you know. Maybe, as people I've been hearing say, the best duo right now in the NBA Jamal Murray and Nikola Yokic winning an NBA championship. Congratulations, it's good. I'm glad the league finally has some parity where it's not the same four teams that are winning every year. So that's true So look to the future now for both sports and we'll see how things go next year, for I don't really know how the Celtics are going to do next year.

Cool Kyle:

Though it is kind of sad, though, because the the trend has been broken.

Rev Kev:

But still, the team that win the president's trophy made it to the Stanley Cup finals. So that's in there again. That is a win, but so little say it'll be what. two out of the last three teams now and four out of the last seven have won the cup. So yeah if nothing else, if the trend continues next year, boston should at least make it to the Stanley Cup finals, whether or not they're going to break my heart and go one in four in my life.

Cool Kyle:

You're still hoping and praying, right?

Rev Kev:

Yeah, we'll see There's a lot of work that team needs to do, but we'll get to that afterwards, but let's, let's jump into this draft. So again, congrats to the Nuggets, congrats to the Vegas Golden Knights. I know a listener of ours and she's been on the podcast a couple times. Steph, she's really excited the Vegas Golden Knights on the Stanley Cup. She was elated, overjoyed, couldn't could contain her, her joy enthusiasm enthusiasm. Yeah, so wicked piss to both of you. Oh, there you go, all right, so let's get this draft on the road. I'm just going to pick the first pack because I won last time.

Cool Kyle:

Oh yeah, go ahead.

Rev Kev:

I'm going to go with this one right here.

Cool Kyle:

All right, i think I'll go with this one here. I'm going to go with this one. I think I'll go with this one and take this one. I'll go with that one. I'll take the top one. I'll go with that one. I'll take this one, all right, and there's one extra? All right, get the last five five.

Rev Kev:

All right. So let's go back and forth and let's see, i'm also going to have a pile of Ford defensemen and gold tender.

Cool Kyle:

You know what to make this interesting too. if it has any information on the back about the player that's interesting, throw it out there too.

Rev Kev:

I'm sure it has something All right. Not looking, not looking, still not looking.

Cool Kyle:

Oh yes, Oh yeah, the ASMR, asmr.

Rev Kev:

John Tavares is my first card. Okay, the quick little fact from here. These are, by the way, 2022-2023 upper deck series, two hockey cards. It says Tavares recorded his 500th career assist on April 14th of 2022, when he dished out three helpers and then leaves 7-3 home victory over the Washington capitals. Very nice. Maybe we won't do them for all of them.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, maybe just some of the bigger players. Yeah, adrian. Kempe It's another good one.

Rev Kev:

Okay, stanley Cup champion Alec Martinez. Oh, a lunchbox legend, oh.

Cool Kyle:

Jordan.

Rev Kev:

Kyrie. Oh, by the way, when we get dual people, they both count correct. Dual people as in like, if there's two people on one card, you get both people, right, if that's the rule we're going to go with, then, yes, we'll go with that. Okay, because I just got Nathan McKinnon and Leon Dreyse.

Cool Kyle:

Oh Jesus.

Rev Kev:

Oh, yes, wow.

Cool Kyle:

But trees birds are odd, oh my god.

Rev Kev:

Jaden Schwartz and Valerian Shushkin. What a, what a start, what a start.

Cool Kyle:

That's a very good start, my boy, i mean wow, congratulations on that.

Rev Kev:

I couldn't be happier about the trees. Birds around, paul could not be happier.

Cool Kyle:

Oh yeah, you got some good players there. Let's see if I can match you. I don't know, we'll see. All right, so first person Okay, got that. I got Sam Carrick. Okay, i got Rasmus. Asplend, asplend, let me see something here?

Rev Kev:

Is it say their positions on the back? Yeah?

Cool Kyle:

Okay, so two centers, two centers. I got Joss Morrissey as a defenseman. Joss Morrissey had a good year this year. Ryan Poulac, so he got hurt Another defenseman. Oh shit, young guns. Brandon Baddick. Oh well, that's going to be like a 75 overall player for you. Ropey Hintz, that's a good one. Okay, i got Ross Colton.

Rev Kev:

Oh boy, you're just going to get a bunch of gritty guys.

Cool Kyle:

So what happens if we both get a player? because I got Nathan McKinnon.

Rev Kev:

I'll say this If you need extra players, i'll just take dry saddle and you can have McKinnon.

Cool Kyle:

All right, fair enough. Fair enough, we'll see what we get Yeah.

Rev Kev:

I'm just worried that neither one of us is going to get a gold tender.

Cool Kyle:

I know Yeah, so I'm a little worried about that All right.

Rev Kev:

So in pack numero dos, i start off with Travis Haminick, defenseman for the Ottawa Senators. Now they might not be playing on these teams anymore, but as of the time these cards were produced, yeah, mo Cider from the Red Wings.

Cool Kyle:

You have any Apple Cider in there?

Rev Kev:

No, Arthur Kylov. Defenseman Noan Dobson, anders Lee Caprizov. Caprizov took his game to another level in the second NHL season. The winger led the Wild and Goals assistant points in 2021-22, while his 108 points were good for fifth overall in the league Wow. I have potentially Alec Martinez, his defense partner, alex Petrangelo Oh, oh, buddy. And Thomas Hurtle. Okay, tomas Hurtle.

Cool Kyle:

Getting some good cards here. I need to. My game needs to step it up now and get some good cards in here Indeed, all right.

Rev Kev:

I should give the camera. Oh, i was giving the camera. Why don't you give the microphone a little bit? You didn't do the ASMR. Oh, that's nice. Oh yeah, that's nice, that's satisfying.

Cool Kyle:

All right, first pull Alexander Carrier. Okay, it's a defenseman. Okay, brandon Montor, defenseman.

Rev Kev:

He's the one that scored the game tie in goal in game seven and make us go to overtime with Florida.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, that is true, that's fun. Miko Rantonin, all right, that's not bad. Okay, young Guns, corey, let me see, oh Jesus.

Rev Kev:

Let me see Shoot him in, shoot him in, shoot him in.

Cool Kyle:

Alright, well, that's going to be another 60-something overall. Jesse Poyarvi Oh boy.

Rev Kev:

You're hurting.

Cool Kyle:

JVR James Van Reems.

Rev Kev:

Ah, a little JVR action Okay.

Cool Kyle:

Andy Duclair, anthony Duclair, god Jesus, rasmus Dallin as a defenseman.

Rev Kev:

So I will say I'm a little worried because we're going to get loaded on forwards in defensemen enough. I don't even care if it's a subpar goalie, because what do you do if we don't have a goalie? Do you just have to take like a crap?

Cool Kyle:

I think if neither one of us gets any goalie cards which I think there should be at least a goalie card in there You got a goalie.

Rev Kev:

No, who'd you get Patrick Cain.

Cool Kyle:

I have to have McKinnon. If I don't get anybody else, you got to give me McKinnon. Jacob Slaven.

Rev Kev:

Tyson Berry, kevin Schatt and Kirk Timo Meyer with a World Junior card. Philip Tomasino, simeon Varlamov There's my goal tender.

Cool Kyle:

Ah boy.

Rev Kev:

And I'll read the back of the Matthew Dunba card. You haven't even read Bendy cards back there. That's true. Dunba enters the 22-23 season tie with Brent Burns for the second most power play goal by our defenseman in Minnesota Wilde franchise history, with 26.

Cool Kyle:

You know, i have no idea who this young gun is The Corey Shooterman. Let's see what his says. Shooterman made his NHL debut on December 28, 2021 and dished out and assist in the second period of the Montreal Canadiens battle against the host Tampa Bay Lightning. Okay, all right. Well, that's exciting. And now I get to open my other pack.

Rev Kev:

I'm just glad I got a goalie, because if I didn't have a goalie I'd have been screwed.

Cool Kyle:

I am extremely concerned.

Rev Kev:

It should be.

Cool Kyle:

A little crackle for you. All right, i got Matt Wa as a defenseman.

Rev Kev:

Okay.

Cool Kyle:

I got Michael Backland Okay. I got Scott Lawton Okay. Who the fuck? Andre Kuzmenko? Let me see.

Rev Kev:

Oh, he's good, He's good, he's good in the game. You'll appreciate that. Okay, a very very colorful Dazzlers color.

Cool Kyle:

All right, we finally got somebody decent Taylor Hall Okay, all right, jared Spurgeon.

Rev Kev:

I'm a defenseman. I don't have that goalie yet though.

Cool Kyle:

Patrick Lining.

Rev Kev:

Ooh, okay, all right.

Cool Kyle:

All right, and then Blake Coleman Blake. Don't I already have Blake Coleman? No, all right. Really quickly, let me read Taylor Hall's. Let me see what his says. Hall recorded his seventh career 20 goal campaign and reached the 60 point plateau of the fourth time in the NHL during the 2021-2022. With Boston, his 41 helpers ranked third on the team.

Rev Kev:

Card number one Logan Coucher, oh, all right. Philip Zidina, william Carlson, nicholas Abruse, i believe, from the Leafs. Michael Rasmussen from the Red Wings, jackie Hughes, oh, eli Slinholm And forward, eric Robinson from the Blue Jackets. All right, we're going to really slow our pace down. Rolling 13 minutes into this episode, we've only got three card backs open.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, i mean, we can talk a little bit about some other stuff.

Rev Kev:

So what did you say we were going to do if you don't have a goal tender?

Cool Kyle:

Basically just let it randomize it.

Rev Kev:

Well, i was going to say there's probably goal tender like free agent goal tenders. You can just take the best two free agent goal tenders.

Cool Kyle:

Oh Jesus, all right, all right, got forward. Tyler Sagan. Sagan recorded his eighth NHL campaign scoring 20 or more goals in 2021-2022. He netted his 300th career marker on March 22nd, helping the stars to earn a 5-3 home win over the Oilers. All right, let's see what we got.

Rev Kev:

Tivu Taravainen Okay, all right, that's cool, it's going to do you great when you have no goal tender.

Cool Kyle:

I know I'm still I don't know 2021-2022,. Taravainen ranked second on the Hurricanes with 43 assists, one behind Sebastian Ajo. He dished out his 250th career helper in a 4-2 home win over the Jets on April 21st. We got Ram Pitlick. Oh boy, oh Jesus, oh boy, wyatt Johnson.

Rev Kev:

Oh, he's a good young gun. That's a good one to have.

Cool Kyle:

I got Quentin Byfield.

Rev Kev:

Okay, another good young gun to get.

Cool Kyle:

Vince Dunn.

Rev Kev:

Oh, that's a defenseman.

Cool Kyle:

Braden Shen Oh boy Tom Wilson.

Rev Kev:

Oh, it comes down to the last pack for you All. Right, We got Dyson Mayo who is a? defenseman.

Cool Kyle:

Got another goal tender.

Rev Kev:

I got Artemi, Panarin Artemi.

Cool Kyle:

We got Ivan Proverov, Connor Sheary By the way folks, these cards were chose at random, These packs. It's not like he's playing this out, He's just got all the good players.

Rev Kev:

Danton Heinen.

Cool Kyle:

Uh-huh.

Rev Kev:

Let's read about Jonathan Quick. Why don't we?

Cool Kyle:

Well, quick isn't that great in the game, but I got two goal tenders I got two goalies.

Rev Kev:

Quick made 31 saves to lead the host Kings to make a 4-0 victory over the Oilers in Game 4, the first round series on May 8th of 2022. The performance included multiple saves without his glove.

Cool Kyle:

Also we can trade cards if you want to. So if you do, if you get like an And my last card, corner garland.

Rev Kev:

Oh okay, pretty, i'm pretty happy with what I have. Yeah, i'm pretty pretty happy. I just hope for your sake. I mean, if you want me to give you one of my goal tenders, i'll gladly take Nathan McKinnon.

Cool Kyle:

No, i gotta at least keep McKinnon. I got some decent Wait, can I?

Rev Kev:

see them. Can I go like? I just want us to go through them quickly, just want to see if you get a goal. I won't even make a face, okay.

Cool Kyle:

I guess we'll see All right.

Rev Kev:

There's at least one card in there that you'll be very excited about.

Cool Kyle:

Jacob Trenn, i got Alexander.

Rev Kev:

That's pronounced Tchikrin.

Cool Kyle:

Tchikrin. Oh okay, alexander Barbanov, barbanov, all right. Well, yakov Trennin, yup Jesus. Peyton Kreis, krebs, peyton Krebs.

Rev Kev:

Krebs.

Cool Kyle:

Oh my God, Ladislav Kolechankov Probably. Oh my God, josh Anderson, okay, Okay. Seth Jones, okay, and who's last? Sydney Crosby? All right, i have no. That means I have to take a fucking random-ass goal tender in free agency And you have fucking-.

Rev Kev:

I will trade you for Sydney Crosby.

Cool Kyle:

No, i'm not going to trade Crosby. If there's anybody else you want besides him and McKinnon, i will give them to you. Let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see.

Rev Kev:

Okay. So, I'll give you a straight up five-pointer, two-center and the low end, i would say well you're going to say, uh well, I think the best overall, if I can remember, is 82. It's probably like 80 or 82, which is about what's the quick is anyway.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, So I might, Depending on the player.

Rev Kev:

I mean, I'll give you somebody on the lower end of the spectrum if you're, you know, because I don't mind quick What. No, i'm not going to take Taylor Hall from this. No, really want.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, i know I'm pretty happy with what I. I'll take a free agency goalie, then that's fine. There's gonna be a few left and I'll that that. Maybe I don't know if they can hold their own against Varlamal.

Rev Kev:

Well, here's what we'll do. We have a rookie pack. There's a rookie goalie in here.

Cool Kyle:

I can choose to take them. That's all yours, alright.

Rev Kev:

I don't know who we know is gonna be in here.

Cool Kyle:

It's a whole rookie pack like they're all rookies. I don't think there's gonna anybody. I want Okay.

Rev Kev:

There's not, but all three players are very good players. Okay, so you got Shane Wright. Okay, dylan Gunther, and it's pronounced Yari Slifakosky.

Cool Kyle:

Oh, okay.

Rev Kev:

Not bad, not bad.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, i won't take them, not a. I did not have a cream of the crop.

Rev Kev:

No.

Cool Kyle:

I mean I have some good forwards. I mean obviously Sydney Crosby and McKinnon, right.

Rev Kev:

So my first look. so Garland's gonna make the lineup Shari's an out maybe. Yes, and Aaron'll make the lineup Robinson's probably out, lin, holm Hughes, carlson will probably make it, wilson's gonna make it Yeah. He's gonna make it, myers gonna make it. Tomasino, mike Kane will make it, hurdle will make it. Kershaw is off. Anders Lee Kyliff may make it.

Cool Kyle:

Quentin Bifield, shush can make it.

Rev Kev:

I don't know if you know me or not. Jaden Schwarz, probably make it. Bergeron's gonna make it. I have dry Seidel. I have.

Cool Kyle:

Jordan.

Rev Kev:

Kairu Kempé may make it And I got to the. Oh my good.

Cool Kyle:

Taylor Hall's gonna make it.

Rev Kev:

Oh my lord. Patrick Lyney's gonna make it 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. Well, what I'm just gonna do is I'm just gonna put all the players in, and the players that I don't need I'm just gonna take out, because there's no point in trying to. Alright, that was exciting.

Cool Kyle:

Riveting stuff folks. Kinnon's definitely gonna make it.

Rev Kev:

At this point you might as well even bother, because you're gonna have way too many players to go through.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, yeah, i mean I kind of feel like these, there's gonna be certain ones like obviously McKinnon and Crosby.

Rev Kev:

Well, McKinnon, crosby Hall, sagan Branton should all automatically make it. TheraVine will make it.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah.

Rev Kev:

Braden Chen should make it Lyney. But we'll put them all in and then we'll just figure out who the 12 best fords and the 6 best defensemen and in your case the 2 best goalies.

Cool Kyle:

Oh, lord God, i'm not looking forward to that. But, as we know, goaltending isn't everything in the game. No, it is definitely not. It needs to be You have.

Rev Kev:

I will say this the lack of goaltending may hurt you, but when it comes to like offense and defense, you have a pretty strong group. It looks like.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, yeah, i mean it should be pretty decent, so So, and these are all fords, i think. So, yeah, yeah, okay.

Rev Kev:

Yeah, put your stack on that side And I'll even be nice. And if you need to use any one of these 3 rookies, i don't think you'll need to.

Cool Kyle:

Probably not.

Rev Kev:

Okay, all right. Well, that was fun 20 minutes that we wasted. We haven't talked about wrestling in a while, so while we're on the sports show, maybe we should talk about wrestling. Yeah, and you can look up some stuff from AEW. I know, i'll be honest, i haven't really sat and watched like Raw or SmackDown in a while and we claim to be a wrestling channel and that's on me. I just I don't know. I'm just kind of like I know what's going on. I know there's going to be a bloodline civil war between the Usos and Roman and Solo, yeah, and that's going to be at. Money in the Bank, and that should be fun. The whole pay-per-view for Money in the Bank looks like it's going to be pretty goddamn good, so that's exciting.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, that's true.

Rev Kev:

But, as I told you, i didn't even know that Maxine was gone from Maximum Mail Models and she's part of the Alpha Academy now.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, obviously.

Rev Kev:

Otis did not catch on as much as people thought it was going to.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, that is true. But I mean, you knew it was going to be something where they needed to join everybody together.

Rev Kev:

By the way, that Alpha that she has. Did you know that she created that herself?

Cool Kyle:

No, that's pretty cool.

Rev Kev:

Yeah, and I guess before she was in, when she was in Grylla position or whatever waiting to go out, rhonda Rousey made a comment about it's about time somebody made a sing that looks sexy, nice Well, i mean, she's pretty attractive of Maxine DePrii, so that's I'm not surprised by that.

Cool Kyle:

Certainly is yeah, So this was what about last night.

Rev Kev:

So what's collision? Collision's their new, one of their new weekly shows.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, it's supposed to be on the weekend, i think, so I'll just kind of read this is the Bleacher Report.

Rev Kev:

So they have three shows now.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah.

Rev Kev:

So they're gonna have. They're gonna have Dynamite on Wednesdays, right Yeah, tuesdays or Wednesdays.

Cool Kyle:

Wednesdays.

Rev Kev:

Then they have Rampage on Fridays, and now they're gonna have Collision on Saturday.

Cool Kyle:

Yes, Oh, for God's sake. So this is the Bleacher Report's coverage of the event. It was in Chicago At the United Center home of the Blackhawks and the Bulls. That is correct The.

Rev Kev:

Madhouse on Madison, also home of one Chicago made punk.

Cool Kyle:

CM, that's what that stands for Chicago made punk. That's true. That is true or can't miss. That is true as well. So let's see.

Rev Kev:

Luchasaurus knew TNT champion as he defeated Wardlow.

Cool Kyle:

I did see that okay, yeah, so the winner of that match, you know, like you said, is Luchasaurus. The next match was Buddy Matthews versus Andre O'Eillow. Oh, oh, eat a little one, yeah. So he's made his AW return against Buddy Matthews. They gave it an A. They said it was a really great match. So that's, that was pretty cool. Miro versus Tony Nese I did catch parts of that and apparently there's like a loading situation going on a loading situation.

Rev Kev:

Bleach a report Oh.

Cool Kyle:

All right. Well, I Did catch parts of that match. It was a pretty much a squash match for the most part. Let's go to a different one. Yeah, it was pretty much a squash match. Tony Nese had like minor offense but Miro got him in the what does he call it? the Clutch, the camel clutch or something.

Rev Kev:

Oh, that, the yeah, i don't talk about yeah, Um so let me go back.

Cool Kyle:

Okay, uh, I Hipe package for Scorpio sky. The Redeemer Miro came out.

Rev Kev:

Oh, the game over.

Cool Kyle:

It's called the game over the game over Yep, the NGPW strong women's champion, willow nightingale and sky blue versus the outcast Ruby Soho and AW women's world champion Tony storm.

Rev Kev:

I heard there's things that are gonna be very positive in the future with sky blue.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, yeah, I've definitely heard some good things about her. I haven't really seen her too much. She's pretty.

Rev Kev:

Oh, okay, we saw. We saw her at Mohegan Sun. Oh, yeah, yeah, one of the opening matches.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah.

Rev Kev:

I will say I said it before and I'll say it again They were cranking out matches. Oh yeah all night, like when you go to like a WWE show. You'll get like let's say this like it's raw, and raw starts at 8 o'clock and you get the three hours Um. You get in at about 7 o'clock by about 7 15 or 7 20. Maybe you get like a dark match and then the rest of it is just kind of like you might get two at best, depending on how Long those matches are. And then there's like a couple of like video packages and stuff and they're like alright, we're gonna be on the air in five minutes, everybody get ready. And they do like the, the quick promo that they show before like they're getting to the actual episode, and then they go Live and then they have the, the three hours show, and then at the end of the show, nine times out of ten, you get a dark match or some type of special thing that nobody else sees, and then that's it, whereas like This just kept like a w was just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, like all night long. Yeah they cranked out. They had to have had at least what like.

Cool Kyle:

Ten or twelve matches before the. It was like a job.

Rev Kev:

It was like a job or WrestleMania.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, yeah.

Rev Kev:

I mean, like I said, like when we had a trend going where if the person hadn't gotten an entrance, that person wasn't gonna. No no everybody else like walk to the ring. Like you watch them walk to the ring with the official and they're just like probably talking over last Minute shit, and then the person who was going to win got like a big special entrance.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, cuz you knew they were a wrestler that was well known.

Rev Kev:

I marked out for Dan house and an ISO excited.

Cool Kyle:

Oh, I got so excited for Dan. Yes, and that was fun too. That was, that was an exciting time. So let's see absolute Ricky starts to declare himself an entrance into the Owen Hart Cup tournament, which I didn't even know they were having a tournament. I am kind of out of touch as well.

Rev Kev:

Yeah, last year.

Cool Kyle:

Oh, okay, um, Jeff Jarrett packet aired, so you know. Yay, tony Shivani was in the ring to interview the acclaimed Anthony Bowens and Mac Max Caster and daddy ass, i Guess. Apparently they wished daddy ass a happy father's day. Oh yeah, yeah, that was. That was pretty exciting. And I guess apparently they they did something where they They're talking about like the trios titles that they said they're not out of the picture yet So they might be going Back for the trios titles. So we'll see. And then the trios made event with CM Punk and AW World Tag Team Champions FTR, which is a Dax Harwood and cash wheeler, dash and Dawson, dash and Dawson, yeah. Versus the bullet club Gold, which is J White and juice Robinson, and Ring of Honor World TV champion Samoa Joe, samoa Joe's back. So yeah. And then Jim Ross announced that one Fans were chanting CM Punk no, cm FTR. Oh, cm FTR, okay Yeah.

Rev Kev:

How is that even chanted?

Cool Kyle:

CM FTR.

Rev Kev:

CM FTR see how that's a mouthful.

Cool Kyle:

It is Yeah, even for chanters.

Rev Kev:

Basically. oh, maybe it's just CM FTR, CM FTR, Yeah that's probably what it is, cm. FTR, cm, ftr That's a lot though which I watched that match.

Cool Kyle:

Um, i didn't really hear them chanting it, but you know I could have came in afterwards. I just watched like the highlights. But basically, in a nutshell, the CM Punk and FTR won the match. It was a pretty decent match and then that was the close of the show. So I mean, overall it was a. It was a decent show. It So, if you look at it, it felt very different than the other shows that they've had so it's like a glorified house show.

Rev Kev:

It's it's kind of like their version of like when WWE just saw the events.

Cool Kyle:

It's kind of yeah, yeah, i mean the the pyro, the stage was set up differently. It felt like a different show.

Rev Kev:

Right. Well, that's how it is with the Saudi shows, where it's basically like a glorified house show. It's like when they do like that, like Mega show, like a raw Smackdown super show, when they're at like Madison Square Garden or something.

Cool Kyle:

Yes okay. So who knows if they're gonna keep that up or if that's a one-time thing?

Rev Kev:

No, because it says collisions live on 24th in scotia bank in Toronto. So it seems like it's gonna be a Every week or every other, i don't know.

Cool Kyle:

I have that's an interesting thing to do three shows a week. I mean I know they're getting very big and well don't forget.

Rev Kev:

I mean for a while WWE was doing heat Smackdown, ross heat, raw Smackdown and velocity They also had shotgun Saturday night. They also had all kinds of other shit, so yeah, that is true, that is true and they do NXT. So yeah, wwe has three shows. Basically they have. I mean, obviously NXT is a different realm. Yeah but again, aw also has the problem of We have too many people but we don't have enough TV time for all of them. So if we have these other shows, like I feel, like The dynamite, the main talent would be on dynamite and collision, obviously, as you saw. And then, and the collision can have some like special attraction matches, like would you always CC and punk on dynamite? Not necessarily. No but he was in collision. And then obviously, the The rampage show is nine times that attend for the like, i don't want to say the b talent, but it's like the lower talent that hasn't pushed themselves up to the upper card To be, you know, a weekly player.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, no, and I understand why they're doing that.

Rev Kev:

It's, it's. I feel like rampage is like NXT is their version of NXT.

Cool Kyle:

Yes, so I can understand why they would make another show, because they were obviously you're yet again competing with WWE, so they want another show, like you said, to showcase some of that talent. And I think sometimes that's why, like Certain guys, like Miro, were sitting at home for a while because they just didn't have the TV or didn't have anything forward to do, yeah, so they're like okay, well, you know what?

Rev Kev:

we got it's. it's the problem of bringing in the old guard too, because you've got your stings, you've got your christian cages, you got your jeff jarrits, you got all these older wrestlers that. Yeah, some of them can still go, but I feel like their time was 20 years ago.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, and I mean that is a problem like tna had the same problem for a while there where they were just bringing in Hulk Hogan staying. You know?

Rev Kev:

rob van damm, kurt Angle well, but for a while though, that was some of their best stuff when you had Angle, samoa, joe Styles, daniels, sabin, like when they had their run for, because I mean, i don't know, i don't know if we've talked about it before, but I remember when tna had just started up, um, they were a weekly pay-per-view on a wednesdays, but it was like it was. I don't really quite know the format, but I definitely remember, in like 2001 or two, because that would have been just after um, wcw and ECW had both closed their doors and Jared got everybody together. Um, i Used to watch. I remember watching the very first TNA pay-per-view and I used to watch it over and over again Just because it was on and I'd watch it on direct TV and It cost money. I mean, yeah, i had a way to get around that, but that's neither here or there, anywho, but I used to watch that. And then, obviously, it would be on at like 11 or 12 o'clock and like a Saturday on like Fox Sportsnet, and it would be like this random ass time, and then eventually they got their deal with spike and They had their run there and they were on destination America and they've been all kind of it's. It's a company that just won't die. Yeah, like it's been through so much shit. I think they do have a core fan base that is really into it right, right, and I mean obviously, like I know some of the names, but compared to what I remember as to what it is now, i mean I, like I said, i know like some of the names, like I know who Sammy Callahan is, i know who the wolves are. I mean I don't know if they're still together anymore. I don't think they are. But like you know, like obviously like the whole run with beer money and the whole run with team Canada and Oh, that's a when Jay letha was doing black machismo. And came out with the full, like you know, cosplay going on that he was doing and it was good, it was great, it was good stuff and they had their run and they were like, oh, we're gonna go head-to-head with WWE On Monday nights. That lasted Maybe a month or two and they were like We're just gonna go back and do our thing on the other day because we're not gonna bother even fucking with you guys.

Cool Kyle:

And that's why a lot of companies now just avoid that. All in general, they won't. I mean, i've heard that they want to change some of the dates for WWE. I heard that they want to take Smackdown off of Fridays, potentially.

Rev Kev:

They want to move raw, i'm like, no, that's the one thing you can't do Monday. Monday night raw has been Monday night I will. I will say. I will say That there have been instances early in like raw's development, like the first couple years, where they've had Thursday night raw, they've had Saturday night raw or Friday night raw because either like the dog show was on or something else was going on and they couldn't Have that slot for USA So they had to go other way. So there have obviously been times where they weren't on Monday nights. But Like you think of WWE is like, if you think of like shows, like if you say, name me a WWE show, money night raw is probably one of the first one. You won't even say Monday night, you'll just say raw and I'll know exactly what you're talking about.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, raw on Monday nights, you know. But that's the thing like, if you look at it now, like I understand why they want, like, want to move it. But in the same sense, you have a show on Friday at Friday nights Smackdown and you have the Paper views or not paper, but the premiere live events on the weekend. So you can't put raw on the weekends, so it's it's.

Rev Kev:

It's actually a good fit, if you think about it, because you've got raw on Monday. Nxt is Tuesday.

Cool Kyle:

Wednesday? I think Wednesday. Yeah, what they're competing with, oh?

Rev Kev:

Dynamite, oh wait.

Cool Kyle:

No, no, no, I'm sorry, nxt move back to Tuesday, yeah.

Rev Kev:

So raw is Monday, nxt's Tuesday, then Wednesday seems to be for dynamite by itself. Thursday's wide open, that's as far as I know, and then Friday is Rampage slash, smackdown. Yeah, and then nowadays, except for WrestleMania, the premium live event is just Saturday. It's been Saturday. No, what I would like for them to do I don't know if they'll do it because of the way things are they should go back to the old tradition with Survivor Series, where it was the Thanksgiving night tradition. So it's like the Wednesday, wednesday night before Thanksgiving, that Wednesday would be the Survivor Series.

Cool Kyle:

Oh yeah, that would be fun.

Rev Kev:

That'd be fun. Also, I know that they make at a two night event. you know if you just start WrestleMania earlier. Yeah, yeah, because I know they used to have like 12 matches and stuff with granted, a lot of the matches were short. Yeah, as opposed to like all the talent there is there today. I mean, nobody wants to sit around and watch. You know Trying to think of just two random people like SD Jones and, you know, coco beware, or something going against you. I mean not that they say they would go against you, but I'm trying to think of two random jobbers or something. Yeah, no one wants to sit and watch 20 minute match. That would be like a five, seven minute match at best.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of like a Ziggler versus you know if you do like Ziggler and Corbin. Corbin.

Rev Kev:

Nobody wants to sit and watch that for 20 minutes. No, thank you.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, like thanks, but no thank you. Yeah, um. The other question I have for you is is did you see Friday night?

Rev Kev:

I Know of it, but I didn't see it again. I I was watching the Red Sox beat the piss out of the Yankees. Oh yeah 15 to 5. Oh, let's, let's bring that up. Yeah, cuz the red, cuz the Yankees are a bunch of dummy.

Cool Kyle:

Because the.

Rev Kev:

Red Sox swept the Yankees wicked pisser.

Cool Kyle:

Hey, getting the use out of some buns today, yeah, that's fun.

Rev Kev:

And and Steph was trying to harass me last week going Oh yeah, well, you might have won this series in New York, but when we go to Fenway Park we're gonna sweep your asses. To that, steph, i say I.

Cool Kyle:

Then she replied with this Just hit them all, just take them around the shirt a home run round around the horn, that's right. Hey, but you know what? Yeah, i think that you didn't miss much, except for, i think, the bloodline storyline.

Rev Kev:

I've seen enough where they were like where Jay was talking to Paul Heyman and was like, are you in or are you like he's like, if I'm gonna be in, you're gonna be out, and there's a whole big dynamic. And then now it's the you know, the usos against That there's, there's. If there wasn't already a faulty crack, it's a full-ass crack. We now have, you know, the two sides and you know, pick a side. Would you, you stand with the tribal chief? and I guess I mean solo sco, what's what's what? doesn't solo have like a nickname? Isn't like the enforcer?

Cool Kyle:

or the enforcer Yeah, okay, and then a force or solo sco or something.

Rev Kev:

Is it the enforcer? Is it something involving the streets? I thought it was like I Don't think. I thought it was something when he first came in, like Michael Colby, like oh, it's all, it's like, oh, like the runner or the streets or some shit like that.

Cool Kyle:

I don't remember that. No, i always heard it as the enforcer. Like you know, the enforcer of the bloodline could be, that's, that's usually what I've heard. But I mean, you know, hey, you know, his name is just solis coa, so we can, you know, go with that. It's fine, um, but yeah, i mean it was a good segment. It was very good at the very end of the night, you know.

Rev Kev:

Street champion.

Cool Kyle:

Oh street champion.

Rev Kev:

That's what it is. There you go. The street champion, solo Sokoa. Yeah, yeah, i knew it was involving the street.

Cool Kyle:

They don't really call him that anymore, though, cause he hasn't gotten a championship yet. Mm-hmm. So But yeah, no, it was a really good storyline. You know the fact that Jay turned on Roman by like swerving the whole crowd being like you know, telling Jimmy like hey, you're out, but I'm out too, and then kicked Roman in the face. That was. That was pretty good swerve, i'm.

Rev Kev:

I will say this I am thoroughly impressed with WWE's writing, the fact that this has gone on for what Almost two years now.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah.

Rev Kev:

And there's somehow still keeping you like on your toes and keeping it fresh And, like you know, obviously, going back to like Royal Rumble at the beginning of the year or whatever, where you know Sammy, sammy hit Roman. Everyone was like what the fuck? And then there was a whole big thing for a couple of months like what's Jay going to do, like is Jay going to be with Sammy? And then Jay turned on Sammy And then you lead up through you know the, the WrestleMania and KO and Sammy won the titles from the Usos And now there's a little bit of a crack, cause now the Usos don't have all the gold and they're a little longer on the Island of Relevancy. Yeah, and now you've got you know the most recent pay-per-view, where you know Jimmy decides that he's going to try to end Roman And Jay's like what you doing, man? He's like I'm doing something you didn't, you couldn't do. And then he got solo attack and like Jimmy and Jay cause he doesn't want to be with them.

Cool Kyle:

And.

Rev Kev:

I feel like, eventually, though it is, it is setting itself up for Roman is just going to be all by himself.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, oh, no, definitely.

Rev Kev:

He's going to end up. Maybe it sounds like it's right out of the playbook of like Sean Michaels and Diesel, where Roman will be calling the shots and solo will be doing all the work, And then Roman will go in and he'll go to throw a Superman punch or a spear and he's going to accidentally hit solo And he's going to hit solo too many times And solo is going to be like nah, nah, I'm not having this, no more.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah.

Rev Kev:

Know what I found out which is interesting, And it involves Sean Michaels and Diesel. So at the 94, the 94 Survivor Series, they had a five on five Survivor Series style match.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah.

Rev Kev:

It came down to like all the members of Sean Michaels team, which was Sean Michaels Diesel, Jeff Jarrett, Owen Hart and Jim Night Hart, And it was against just Razor Ramon.

Cool Kyle:

Oh, wow.

Rev Kev:

So Diesel beat up everybody. He had taken care of Razor. Sean Michaels goes to finally tag it had a man in the match finally tags in, gets in And what the hell was it? He goes to throw a super kick at Diesel. all right, razor. but Razor moves and he hits Diesel in the face And it had been like the second or third time that it had happened And Diesel was like all right, well, full me once, full me twice. all this deal. So from the time that that happened that's also the same show where Backlin ended up beating Bret Hart for the title in an I Quit match because Bret Hart's mom ended up throwing in the towel form and it was a whole plan and whatever Like from the time that Diesel was a heel on that Sunday to like four days later like a live show at Madison Square Garden or a house show at Madison Square Garden, which is like one of the last times a major title championship was changed. Diesel, like the bell rang. he kicked Backlin in the stomach, he jackknifed him and he beat him in like eight seconds.

Cool Kyle:

Oh, wow.

Rev Kev:

So Diesel went from being like you know. I don't know if maybe Bret needed a break and they needed to find a new like face champion so they could set up Sean and Diesel, but Diesel got mad. So Diesel gets counted out, sean gets counted out, and then the rest of the whole team got counted out too. So Diesel, so raising her on moment one, and I'm like I'll take that for you. Oh, thank you, i got a garbage can over here. Oh, i appreciate it. I'm like how is that possible? So Sean was the legal man and he got counted out, which I understand. Diesel left the arena. He got counted out. I understand that too. Yeah, but like Owen and Jeff Jarrett and Nightheart were just standing like outside, like just before you get to the curtain, and the ref just decided to go nope, all five of you are counted out. I don't care And I'm like that's a weird way to end a fucking match, but okay, sure, whatever.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, that is a little weird, So and then. So it's a similar situation.

Rev Kev:

Well, no, I'm just saying it's a similar situation as far as Roman would be the Shawn Michaels in this and Solo would be the Diesel, where Solo was doing all the work and Roman's hanging back and not doing anything, Oh yeah, how. And, like I said, roman's gonna Superman punch or spear Solo once too many times.

Cool Kyle:

I mean that'll be interesting to see.

Rev Kev:

And then Solo will turn, and I mean wouldn't be surprised somehow at like SummerSlam or something. Maybe Solo challenge Roman Or what about this for a crazy match? A fatal four way for the? was it the WWE undisputed Universal, super, mega, awesome Championship, whatever the fuck it's called now? Yeah, pretty much Fatal four way. Each corner has a bloodline member in it and it could be like an elimination style match. Yeah, that'd be insane. That would be insane, you have the Usos you've got Solo. Like you can't, you have to trust people, but you also can't trust them because you're all trying to vie for it, cause that's a way that I mean. Eventually, roman would like lose, potentially, but I don't know.

Cool Kyle:

I don't know if I can see it going that way, necessarily, but I do think that Solo Sokoa is gonna be maybe the one to throw.

Rev Kev:

Who's gonna be Roman's next person that he has to fight?

Cool Kyle:

So in my head I wanna say that it's gonna be one of the top guys, but I mean He's beating everybody Like you need to add somebody new in there.

Rev Kev:

He's already beaten. He beat Jey Uso right, cause Jimmy had to come out and try to save him. He's already beaten Jey. He's already beaten KO multiple times. He's beaten Sammy. He's beaten Cody. He's beaten Brock. He's beaten every major. The only thing I could see which right now they're not doing it cause they're doing something else with it would have been face Braun Breaker coming in. Yeah, but right now Braun's got that whole thing where he's supposed to be against, going against Seth Rollins for the title. Yeah, he's playing the heel right now, right. So, like I said, if you did like, if Solo decided to turn and Solo went face, but I just don't know if I see Solo's face right now.

Cool Kyle:

Depends, i guess the situation whatever calls for it. Like I mean, i like Solo Sokoa.

Rev Kev:

Do you think Solo's charismatic enough to be a face, though I don't feel like he is.

Cool Kyle:

Maybe not at the moment, but that maybe that's why they're building him up, cause he does have charisma to a degree.

Rev Kev:

The only way I could see it happening would be if Solo Solo got mad and turned on Roman and then Roman like betrayed or like beat up Paul Heyman and Paul Heyman left his wise man post and like Roman was just by himself. As this like crazy, super paranoid champion. And then Roman Heyman was with Solo and he was the talker for Solo.

Cool Kyle:

Cause obviously Or it could be like-.

Rev Kev:

Cause Brock didn't need to talk. Yeah, and then Heyman did all the talking form and Solo was just in there to kick ass and take names. Yeah.

Cool Kyle:

It could kind of be like a brothers or destruction scenario where you have, like you know, paul Bear managing the undertaker and then he turns on the undertaker to manage Kane, you know. So it could be a similar situation where we're, yeah, right now Paul Heyman's managing, you know, roman Reigns, but maybe that's how Roman either loses the title or whatever You know. Maybe all of a sudden, like you know, solo Sokoa hits Roman Reigns with a-.

Rev Kev:

A Samoan spike.

Cool Kyle:

And you know, or something along those lines, and causes him to lose the title. And then there's a few that goes on with there. You just, you don't know. I don't know Why are you smiling so hard?

Rev Kev:

No, I'm not smiling hard. I'm gonna let you finish up the show.

Cool Kyle:

You gotta go use the bathroom.

Rev Kev:

I have to use the bathroom, All right. Well, I'll just read off our stuff, Just, I mean I don't know what else to read. I mean we got through 40 minutes.

Cool Kyle:

No, we didn't. That's a lot better than I thought we were going to do Yeah.

Rev Kev:

So read off the socials. I'm gonna throw this out to people now and you can say it again peace and love.

Cool Kyle:

All right, i'll say it again, i'll be back, all right. No, it's all good. I get to end the show myself today. You do get to end the show yourself, so all you get to listen to Cool Kyle. Don't put the people to sleep now. Go poop, hurry up. Well, why should I wait? I could wait for you to go pee. It's fine, i got my phone, i might be able to Jesus, all right. Well, i will read the socials off slowly, because now he's gone now. So I will read him off slowly. And if he comes back, that's great. If not, then we'll, we'll deal with it, all right. So, ladies and gentlemen, we are the Wicked Case Podcast. We are streaming on Apple Podcasts, spotify, google Podcasts, tune in, and my partner is not here, so I'll do it for you, deezer And wherever you get all major podcasts, as well as YouTube audio only. At the moment, phone number is 7747649074. That's 7747649074. If my partner was here sitting in the chair in front of me, he would probably make a joke about a Megan or an Emily or something like that, but he's not, so we'll just skip that part. The email we have an email, the wickedkss at gmailcom. Go ahead and email us any requests or comments. You know, if that's your preferred method, go ahead. Our website is wwwthewickedksscom. That's the wickedksscom. Right now, the website is pretty much just the Buzzsprout hosting site, but it has all of our podcasts on it, so go ahead and take a listen to them. Go back in the vault. We have 72 episodes before this one, so there's plenty to listen to. So go ahead and take a listen to that. So our website oh, no, i already did our website brain fart socials, facebook, instagram and the Twitter at the wickedkss, and we record. We put out the shows on the sports shows Saturday at noon and the entertainment show Sundays at noon, so take a listen for those. They drop at noon on both days. And oh, in Patreon, patreon forward slash the wickedkss Three dollars a month. It's like a cup of coffee, not much. Oh, hey, he's back. Hey, he's back. I just got to the Patreon part. I'm glad you didn't poop, but I got through everything.

Rev Kev:

So you know This is TMI I did, but I just, it was like You pooped.

Cool Kyle:

Yeah, That was like a fucking. It must have. Just Yeah, Oh shit.

Rev Kev:

I was like this, like holding on the edge of my seat, not that anybody needs to know that. That's why I was like I'm just gonna go, i'm gonna go and take care of it and get out.

Cool Kyle:

I told the listeners I'm like I'm gonna talk really slow and give you all the socials really slow, so that way, if he comes back, that's great, if not, then I'll just end the show, but yeah.

Rev Kev:

Well, I'm here. Yeah, I never missed the moment to say peace and love y'all. Let's get wicked.

Cool Kyle:

Wicked pizza.

Rev Kev:

Yeah.

Cool Kyle:

Dummy Yeah.

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